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Jewish World Review
Oct. 9, 2007
/ 27 Tishrei 5768
Don't know much about history...
In a letter to the editor regarding my “Don’t lose your head: vote for Osama,” article in the Rolla Daily News, retired Professor Tom Yusha Sager, implied that I didn’t have the history knowledge of a 2nd grader. My son, Aaron, called me and was furious. “Dad,” he said, “how dare him? I know for a FACT that you have at least a fourth grade knowledge of times past!”
What I do have is some comprehension for reading.
Yusha, if you understood what I wrote, you would know that I wasn’t talking about fights within the same religions. Otherwise I would have inserted the fact that the biggest killers of Muslims….ARE Muslims.
Also a professor of your stature and reading acumen knows that I don’t lump all Muslims together either in words or context.
Otherwise I wouldn’t have said, “More important, it’s time that “moderate” Muslims shoulder some of the load by publicly denouncing the miscreants that have hijacked their religion.” Professor, how can a man of your academic achievement have missed this?
Your Holocaust examples are equally off point. Jews weren’t given the choice to convert. In fact, even those that had converted to another religion were murdered just because of their Jewish “past.”
The one good thing about the Ottoman Empire is at least everyone got to put their feet up.
I agree that Jews and Christians lived reasonably well for a long period of time under Islamic rule, even though they were regarded as second class citizens. In fact, the Inquisition of 1492 saw Ottoman Sultan Bayezid II, send his fleet in to save Muslims and Jews from that Spanish/Christian siege. The Ottoman Empire is no longer, lasting from 1299 to 1922, shortly after the Ottomans allied with Germany in WW2.
Since then, many Muslims chose to side with Hitler against America in a deal to rid the Middle East of Jews. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a visible ally to Hitler. Some Muslim countries have taken up where the Nazis left off, right up to slandering Jews generally, to claiming that somehow 15 million Jews are to blame for the suffering of 1.5 billion Muslims, right down to the goose stepping troops in Iran . Hey, if you’re going to wipe “ Israel off the map”, you may as well do it in style. I got this information from several websites. Here’s one:
Does that mean that other religions, including my own, Judaism doesn’t have fanatics? No. There are nuts in ALL faiths. The difference between those fanatics and Muslim fanatics is that THE NUTS ARE NOT IN CHARGE as they are in Islam.
I hear the History Channel was cancelled…too many repeats
Now let’s talk about your misquotes, taking words out of context, and your confusing choice of Quran cites. I never said “Muslims as people that think G-d wants them to kill us.”
Here’s what I said:
“For those who equate all religions with Islamofacism let me remind you: Christians don’t murder those that don’t convert to Christianity at least not for the last 500 years. Jews don’t murder those that don’t convert to Judaism. Hindus, Shinto, Sikhs, Buddhists, Taoists, ad infinitum, don’t murder innocents that don’t convert to their religions.
There is no negotiating with people that think G-d wants them to kill us. We need to fight them until they change or give up, just like the Nazis in WW2.”
Nowhere did I lump all Muslims as those that believe the above. Throughout the column I refer to Islamofascists as the culprits, while encouraging moderate Muslims to speak out.
More important, Yusha, why aren’t you decrying those that make Islam reflective of the conversion or die scam that is taking place today?
I also found your the Quran quotes curiously in support of my argument. The first three you cited could and I’m sure are used by Osama and Zawahiri to encourage more genocide, not peace. The fourth stating that “He who hurts a Non-Muslim citizen in a Muslim state, I am his adversary…” is the exact opposite of what has happened to Jews, Christians, Buddhists, etc., and others in “Muslim states.” Below is a chart borrowed from an article by Ada Aharoni showing the population of Jews in Arab countries before the establishment of Israel in 1948 and that population again in1976:
More than 850,000 Jews were kicked out, most with their property stolen, by these Arab/Muslim states. They barely got away with their lives, Professor Sager. Granted some left voluntarily for Israel or more friendly countries, but the majorities were banished in fear of their very lives.
Last, professor, you admit that there are “…Muslims who do not follow their own scripture and traditions.”, but you don’t seem to have the capacity to understand the destruction they are causing to the world. If you did you’d be out front leading the fight against the Muslim minority that controls Islam today.
THAT was the most important point I made in my column. It was understood by people with far less education than you.
Finally, Professor Sager, if you can’t figure out what’s going on in the post 9/11 world I have but one question for you.
What color are the clouds on the planet you’re living on?
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